Shiva Indis -
"I did a quick scan of the packaging, the disk ID, the .txt files... even the novel and RPG expansion book. I haven't found it identified as 'Lunar gaiden' or anything of the like. "
"I'd imagine most fans don't think that the majority of players would mistake the developers' intent so badly.
Incedently - Do you object to using quote tags?"
If I'm mistaking the developers intent so badly, why can't someone provide a url/link with the developer referring to it s a "side-story", "spinoff" or hack I'll even take them referring to it as a"Gaiden".
(Gaiden does mean "side- story " in Japanese right?)
And what are quote tags?
Dragonmaster Den -
"It's a gaiden. Does that mean it isn't canon? It's canon
But Magical School/Walking School Lunar is a gaiden."
No proof. and what do you mean by "canon" exactly?
"The fact that Lunar Magical School is a gaiden has also been stated publicly (old WD message boards) by Working Designs President Victor Ireland years ago as to why they had no interest in localizing it. "
Working Designs also said the game was terrble to give an excuse for not localizing it
Anyway, Victor Ireland or WD is NOT the developer.
It is in fact a side story whether it is called one by title or not. It does take place in the Lunar universe, and it's part of the series, but it's not a major chapter. Long after Lunar Magical School and Walking School were released Game Arts made many mentions of a seperate Lunar 3 being developed, check the many interviews on Lunar 3 on this site for example."
Two things: 1. calling it a "MAJOR" chapter is a relative personal opinion and thus not proof.
2. You obviously didn't read my previous posts
Read this: (I SAID IT:
"Also, like I seem to be saying a lot in here Lunar Dragon Song is considered a prequel and not a side-story. Thus a Lunar RPG that is NOT a side-story CAN have NO number in its title. Thus any discussion of "Lunar 3" is irrelelvant in proving whether or not Lunar MS is a "official" "side story" or NOT because it would be possible for Lunar MS to NOT be a side story AND not have a number in its title."
See? Him not acknoledging Lunar MS as "Lunar 3" is fine with me, because you can have a NON side-story Lunar RPG with no number in the title (example: Lunar: Dragon Song)."
"Since Lunar Magical School/Walking School is a side story originally designed for Game Gear, very little promotional interviews, were made since it was a minor release, as a result an official interview from Game Arts saying "Oh, that's just a gaiden" isn't likely to exist since no one even bothered asking the question. "
Hmm that would be unfortunate. Althogh if it's not called a gaiden/side-story/spinoff anywhere that would mean it might not be one
"But the game is not a major chapter in the Lunar Universe and quite frankly is a gaiden in every sense of the word. Much like how Final Fantasy Mystic Quest for SNES is considered to be a gaiden in the Final Fantasy timeline, Lunar Magical School is a gaiden to the Lunar series. That doesn't mean it's not canon, it simply means it's not a full fleged sequel or prequel."
You once again used the relative term "MAJOR".
Relative labeling by fans doesn't really prove anything.
"Yes...you're drawing a distinction with "side-story" that doesn't really exist. Calling it a side-story doesn't mean it doesn't count, only that it's smaller in scale than the other chapters. And this does describe MS. No dragons (or no more than one), no dragonmasters, no world history, no world crisis, no context...it's kids at a school learning spells and having encounters with local baddies. Charming, but hardly epic."
Hmmm, I definitely see your point here. I simply want to know what the developers thought of it as, since they are the only true authority on the matter"
""Re: "Lunar III" is in quotes He might just have well as meant "the next Lunar game".
No, he did not. I am holding the artbook from which that was translated in my hands and it definitely says "LUNAR III" -- in Western characters and a roman numeral, surrounded by Japanese quotation marks. If you don't accept that as proof then shell out for the artbook yourself and look. The translation gives the page number and no knowledge of Japanese is required to find that."
The fact that the words LUNAR III are IN quotation marks (as you point out) is what made me think that maybe he DID simply mean "the next game in the series" whether it has a THREE in the title or not..
"Kindly keep in mind that not every source is online -- and since you cast doubt on the translation up at LunarNET, you don't seem to trust links and so there is no reason to give you them...if they even exist, which is unlikely, and exist in English, which is even more unlikely. The developers haven't had anything to do with WS/MS in years; why would you expect official material to be on the web when they've long since moved on to other projects? Like it or not, interviews and translations such as those posted on LunarNET are your best online sources."
I'm sure the translation at Lunar-Net is fine.
As for trusting links, well it depends whats ON the web page they go to, doesn't it
But gotta have links for proof, assuming someone can find them (one or many) of course.
I'm not insulting Lunar-net or anything btw. I love this site
"Hajime Satou was the world designer, and G1 already told you who Shigema is. These are things you can find out yourself by simply buying the artbook and other Japanese materials and possibly studying the language yourself. Until you're willing to do that you'd better accept that the artbooks say what they're translated to say and that the interviews are with the designers, because there's no way to "prove" more clearly than that."
Um I DO accept that. Whether it is considered a "side-story"/"spinoff"/"gaiden" by the actual developers is my question here, NOT whether or not Lunar MS should be considerd Luanr 3.
Read this please :
""Also, like I seem to be saying a lot in here Lunar Dragon Song is considered a prequel and not a side-story. Thus a Lunar RPG that is NOT a side-story CAN have NO number in its title. Thus any discussion of "Lunar 3" is irrelelvant in proving whether or not Lunar MS is a "official" "side story" or NOT because it would be possible for Lunar MS to NOT be a side story AND not have a number in its title."
See? Him not acknoledging Lunar MS as "Lunar 3" is fine with me, because you can have a NON side-story Lunar RPG with no number in the title (example: Lunar: Dragon Song)." "
"Oh, and I have a date of 1/6/95 for when the artbook was published, courtesy the Lunar Goods Archive. I believe Walking School came out that same year."
Hmm actually Gamefaqs has Lunar Walking School (GG) coming out in Japan on 1/12/96 a YEAR after the interview, not that it matters (see my answer to the above question, right after :"Read this please:")
BTW to be clear, I am asking for MAGICAL SCHOOL (SATURN) not Walking School (game gear)
"Lastly, just because the MS board is low activity doesn't mean that no one reads it. Most regulars here read all the Lunar boards."
Maybe so, but I'm asking people to provide a (apparently) very elusive link here. I wanted as many people as possible seeing this post and thus increading the chance of SOMEONE finding it ^_^
GhaleonOne - "
. If you could reply with what you're specifically wanting in a consise few paragraphs, I'd be happy to try and help you with your questions."
I want a link/URL to a website containing a English (orginally English or translated to English - either way I gotta be able to read it
comment about Lunar Magical School (SATURN) **BY** anyone in the game's developer (the company) referring to the game as a "side-story", "spinoff", "Gaiden", or any similar word. Thats all
You can provide multiple links if you want (if you can find them).