New maps of Blue Star as Earth

[phyco126]

As we all know, we can all make out the continents of Earth, making the Blue Star Earth. Now, some say that people use Earth all the time in games rather than drawing a new planet. I doubt this is the case. Regardless, here are some pics that I added titles too. (What can I say? I'm bored.)

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/ ... rnamed.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/ ... 4named.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/ ... 2named.jpg

[DaWrestla]

cool.

[GhaleonOne]

Yup, I totally agree man. I noticed it about a year ago replaying EBC based on that intro of Lunar revolving around the Blue Star. And when it zooms in, Lucia's Spire is somewhere in Africa.

[Shiva Indis]

The Silver Star Story intro has Japan front and center - that's so anime-style. I've done a little checking, and the primary Blue Star views used in SSS seem to be Pacific Rim Asia/Pacific Ocean, and Africa. I'd like to figure out what views are being used in Vane vs. The Grindery, but the Blue Star is quite obscured in that cut-scene.

The EB remake example seems to be more accurate to the current map than the SSS examples are. Your bluestarnamed.jpg seems to have Japan set oddly distant from the Korean penninsula (BTW, you marked the Japanese islands correctly Phyco), and bluestar1and2named.jpg seems to have Madagascar way north of it's actual position.

[LuciaOne]

lol, in the third image you have it pointing and saying "Koreans".

=]

Very cool though, I didn't look enough to notice the countries before...

[phyco126]

Well, most of it was based off the world Atlas on mapquest.com. The bluestarnamed.jpg was a huge pain in the butt. I knew those where the Japanese Islands, but I couldn't figure out the relation to the rest of the area, as Indonesia looks too big, China just doesn't look like china (though I think I found the part that is shown on the Atlas,) and many other stuff. Real pain.

Also, for the naming, cool. I had trouble finding the names of the islands, so the words that appeared on the Atlas I either had to guess or choose another country that just showed the island names. Even then, I wasn't all that sure about the names.

Edit: And LuciaOne, that's because I didn't want to try to say Pen... pen... bah, what the entire Korean land is known as .

[Anordin]

That's kinda cool. Makes me wonder what happened on the Blue Star Earth. Or even if Althena is a goddess that we can find in our mythology books...?

And Phyco, I think you have too much time on your hands...j/k

[phyco126]

Already looked for Althena, trust me. The closest I could ever get was the Greek Goddess of Athena. =/

And if you only knew how much free time I really have, haha.

[Soir-Lilac]

The Blue Star as Earth is no great leap of thought for a planetary body having a smaller place called Lunar, although there are allusions to more current world 'history' within Lunar TSS in books in the library of Vane. In slight tangent maybe, but I think it's interesting. If we wanna impose Lunar story over Earth mythology then none of it has even really started to begin yet.

Or... has it? XP Lunar 2 gives us pre-history and Lunar DS may well give yet more, I don't yet know, rargh. ^^

[Angelalex242]

If Lunar DS gave us any history, we'd be much happier with the game.

[Racoati]

Ah, Angelalex, that had been what I was about to ask in Soir's intro topic - whether DS gave good history. I guess that's a no then. (I'd been meaning to catch up with you on the boards too - I've seen you around - fellow Lucia geek, yaaay!)

But on-topic, wow indeed. I personally like the idea of the Lunar world being related to this world in that direct a fashion; I dunno, it lends even more intensity to its realism. And I love that there are people in this fandom who care about and think of these things. Perhaps it is the future of our world. Let's pray that science evolves during our lifetimes to the point where it'll be possible that we live long enough to find out.

[Alunissage]

Really? I find that thinking of it as related to this world totally and fatally detracts from the realism of the story. There are just too many differences to reconcile, not least of which is religious. Much better to consider it simply a fantasy, like any other fantasy world.

[Zophar]

Ah, Angelalex, that had been what I was about to ask in Soir's intro topic - whether DS gave good history. I guess that's a no then. (I'd been meaning to catch up with you on the boards too - I've seen you around - fellow Lucia geek, yaaay!)

But on-topic, wow indeed. I personally like the idea of the Lunar world being related to this world in that direct a fashion; I dunno, it lends even more intensity to its realism. And I love that there are people in this fandom who care about and think of these things. Perhaps it is the future of our world. Let's pray that science evolves during our lifetimes to the point where it'll be possible that we live long enough to find out.

Yeah, during that one cut scene in Eternal Blue there was that scene with the power of Althena's light destroying that city. Is it just me, or did that city look really futuristic? So maybe...

Also if you take a look at the increase of crime in various places in the world, that parallels the part in the history of the Blue Star where Zophar used his power to corrupt people, causing them to do bad things. All of that so he could gain more power.

If what happens to the Blue Star is the future of our world then it won't be long before that chain of events begins. Guh, I better stop thinking about this cause it's starting to freak me out a little.

[Soir-Lilac]

Whatever the premise of the idea behind the Blue Star and Lunar, the parallels to our Earth and the Moon are fairly blatant at least to me, and within the bounds of departure of disbelief I always find it a cute and interesting thing to do this with worlds that don't automatically distance themselves.

Not least; even if 'heading off on a tangent and wondering if maybe it's the future' is a little unsettling, do remember that in all honesty that's liable to be the far backstory and intention of things, so by rote of good story it should also make some sense viewed from this perspective. Or, I think as such, anyway. ^^; If what was said about DS's contradictions somewhere else is quite as true as it sounds, that may shake things a bit. (But of the Sega CD versions, EB contradicts TSS anyway. Mmmmm. But stories told like this are never told precisely, so we shouldn't gauge them as such.)

Basically.. dare to dream! XD Dreaming makes the world sweeter. (If nothing more, it provides interesting conversation as well...)

[phyco126]

Well, I've always had my own theories on it, which could tie the stories to life here. However, my theories are pretty long shotted, and with no direct proof. (AKA, more of a mythical/legendy stance.)

Though, if you want to directly relate it (and this just has to make some people upset [Though not intentional])....

Althena = God
Zophar = Satan
Lucia = Jesus

*hides under a really giant rock*

[snaztacular]

The last view of the Blue Star in TSS doesn't look very convincing...but the theory of Blue Star as Earth could have developed later in internal development.

[Alunissage]

Parallel universe works just fine for me. Lots of authors have done it, basing their stories on a neo-Earth where magic worked, or such and such techno advance happened, or whatever. Heinlein made fun of this in one of his later books, The Number of the Beast, where there's a convention of people from such alternate realities and one person is asked to list the 20th century US Presidents of his timeline to place him ("...Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy..."). One of my favorite series has Reme instead of Rome because Remus won the fight instead of Romulus. Etc. I don't think the maps prove that the creators think of the Blue Star as this particular Earth we're on, especially since when the question was directly asked in an interview a specific answer was avoided. It's just an Earth.