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Pentagram?

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:03 am
by Shinto-Cetra
In the US version of Lunar:SSH, I noticed that the teleporter to Vane is not a Pentagram like in some previous versions. I was wondering if this was US censorship like in the Sega CD version (Pentagram changed to a "starfleet symbol") or if it was changed in Japan too. I don't have a Japanese copy of Lunar:SSH, and I have scoured Youtube, but cannot find the teleporter to Vane in Japanese version on Youtube. If anyone has played Lunar:SSH in Japanese let me know, thanks!

Re: Pentagram?

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:38 pm
by Kizyr
Do you have a screenshot that I can compare against? I can load up my Japanese SSH when I get home; hopefully I have a save at a point where I can still travel around and I could check.

I didn't think to check that on my plays through. KF

Re: Pentagram?

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:22 pm
by Drathial
Kizyr wrote:Do you have a screenshot that I can compare against? I can load up my Japanese SSH when I get home; hopefully I have a save at a point where I can still travel around and I could check.

I didn't think to check that on my plays through. KF


I've attached a screen of the scene. Found it earlier while looking for the answer.
In the US version, it's just been slimmed down to a circular orb design.

Re: Pentagram?

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:13 am
by Shinto-Cetra
Alex -Dragonmaster- wrote:
Kizyr wrote:Do you have a screenshot that I can compare against? I can load up my Japanese SSH when I get home; hopefully I have a save at a point where I can still travel around and I could check.

I didn't think to check that on my plays through. KF


I've attached a screen of the scene. Found it earlier while looking for the answer.
In the US version, it's just been slimmed down to a circular orb design.


I also uploaded a screenshot of the teleporter in the city of Vane, as it's a little different color-wise from the one Alex-Dragonmaster uploaded from the spring.

Re: Pentagram?

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:15 pm
by Alunissage
I'm virtually certain that that's what it looked like in the Japanese game (which is still the only version of this game that I've finished), but I'll have a little race with Kizyr to see which of us checks first. :)

Re: Pentagram?

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:07 pm
by Alunissage
Yup, I can confirm that it's the same in the Japanese version. I took pictures, but will only bother uploading them if someone insists.

Took me longer than I intended. My five saves were: at the Blue Dragon Shrine before the singing, with Ghaleon in Burg, in the Black Dragon whatever it was with Tempest, in Althena's tower, and in the Talon Mine. Used the first one but Nall wouldn't let me go anywhere until after raising the temple, which first meant I had to remember who to talk to to get the singing to happen. It did serve to remind me, again, that I really need to play this game again. Which reminds me, again, that I really need to continue my SSST playthrough. Again.

Re: Pentagram?

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:03 am
by Shinto-Cetra
Alunissage wrote:Yup, I can confirm that it's the same in the Japanese version. I took pictures, but will only bother uploading them if someone insists.

Took me longer than I intended. My five saves were: at the Blue Dragon Shrine before the singing, with Ghaleon in Burg, in the Black Dragon whatever it was with Tempest, in Althena's tower, and in the Talon Mine. Used the first one but Nall wouldn't let me go anywhere until after raising the temple, which first meant I had to remember who to talk to to get the singing to happen. It did serve to remind me, again, that I really need to play this game again. Which reminds me, again, that I really need to continue my SSST playthrough. Again.


Interesting. Well, all of you, thanks for your help!

Re: Pentagram?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:44 pm
by Werefrog
Wasn't the Vane transporter emblem technically just a five pointed star as pentagrams are upside-down?

I've made the mistake a few times, but in high school I was kindly corrected by some metal heads.

Re: Pentagram?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:37 pm
by Alunissage
I wouldn't think a pentagram has any specific orientation -- it's just a mathematical figure (see: octogram, decagram). Specific uses of it might have particular orientations. Wikipedia confirms this.

Re: Pentagram?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:41 pm
by Werefrog
Alunissage wrote:I wouldn't think a pentagram has any specific orientation -- it's just a mathematical figure (see: octogram, decagram). Specific uses of it might have particular orientations. Wikipedia confirms this.


Dang. Is there nothing that you can trust a metal head to teach you?

But, it is only a Satanic symbol when upside-down. I don't understand the need to censor when the pentagram has been used for different groups for millennia. But I do understand that some people have different levels of comfort for things like that.

Re: Pentagram?

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:40 pm
by Leo
Werefrog wrote:
Alunissage wrote:I wouldn't think a pentagram has any specific orientation -- it's just a mathematical figure (see: octogram, decagram). Specific uses of it might have particular orientations. Wikipedia confirms this.


Dang. Is there nothing that you can trust a metal head to teach you?

But, it is only a Satanic symbol when upside-down. I don't understand the need to censor when the pentagram has been used for different groups for millennia. But I do understand that some people have different levels of comfort for things like that.


Most Christians don't research things. Regardless of the details, if they think "OMG GOIN' 2 HELL!!1" then it could affect sales.